Sunday Puzzle Challenge

Oct 13, 2019
Originally published on October 13, 2019 1:00 pm
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And it's time to play The Puzzle.


GARCIA-NAVARRO: Joining us is Will Shortz. He's puzzle editor of The New York Times and WEEKEND EDITION's puzzlemaster. Hi, Will.

WILL SHORTZ, BYLINE: Hey there, Lulu.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Remind us of last week's challenge.

SHORTZ: Yeah, it was a straightforward one. I said name two tasty things to eat - each in eight letters - in which the only consonants are L and P. And the answers are lollipop and apple pie.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: (Laughter) We received 2,258 correct responses, and the winner this week is Denise Kale of Santa Barbara, Calif.


DENISE KALE: Thank you so much.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: So how did you solve it?

KALE: Actually, lollipop just came to me. Well, I was still listening to the rest of the news that morning. And then I wrote it down - and then pie. I thought, oh, pie is tasty. And then, frankly, the next day, apple popped into my head. And there it was.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: And there it was. All good inspirations come from that. What do you do?

KALE: So I'm a lawyer. I'm in-house counsel for a tech company in Santa Barbara.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Fantastic. Well, Santa Barbara's so beautiful. Denise, are you ready to play The Puzzle?

KALE: I'm as ready as I will ever be. Yes. So yes.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: (Laugher) All right. Take it away, Will.

SHORTZ: OK, Denise, every answer today is a familiar phrase in the form blank to the blank. I'll give you the first word of the phrase. You tell me the end. For example, if I said play, you would say gallery as in play to the gallery.


SHORTZ: Now, your first answers here are all four letters long. Your first one is word - W-O-R-D. Word to the...

KALE: Word to the wise.

SHORTZ: Word to the wise is it. Number two is key - K-E-Y.

KALE: Key to the door?

SHORTZ: Oh, what about if you're a very honored person, you might receive this?

KALE: Oh, key to the city.

SHORTZ: Key to the city is it. Exception.

KALE: Exception to the rule.

SHORTZ: There you go. Talk. Your next one is talk.

KALE: Boy, talk to the bank. Talk to the house. Talk to the...

SHORTZ: If you're speaking to someone and they don't want to hear you, they say, talk to the...

GARCIA-NAVARRO: It's a body part.

KALE: I am drawing a total blank.

SHORTZ: All right. I'll just tell you that one. It's talk to the hand.

KALE: Oh, I'm not familiar with that phrase.

SHORTZ: You know, you're talking to someone, and they don't want to hear you. They hold their palm up and say, talk to the hand.


SHORTZ: Here's your next one.

KALE: Thank you.

SHORTZ: The next answers are all five letters long.


SHORTZ: Cut. Cut.

KALE: Cut to the chase.

SHORTZ: That's it. Also cut to the quick. Either one works. Off.

KALE: Off the cuff. Off the...

SHORTZ: Off to the...

KALE: Oh, off - oh, yes. Off to the races.

SHORTZ: Off to the races, good. Hail, hail - H-A-I-L.

KALE: Hail to the chief.

SHORTZ: That's it. Try this one. Pedal - P-E-D-A-L.

KALE: Pedal to the metal.

SHORTZ: That's it. Dressed.

KALE: Dressed - oh, dressed to the nines.

SHORTZ: That's it. Preach.

KALE: Preach to the choir.

SHORTZ: That's it. Now six letter answers. Back.


SHORTZ: Uh-huh.

KALE: OK, back to the...

GARCIA-NAVARRO: It's a movie in the '80s.

KALE: Oh, future.

SHORTZ: "Back To The Future." Heir - H-E-I-R.

KALE: Heir - heir to the throne.

SHORTZ: Heir to the throne is it, good. Your next answers are all eight letters or more. Rise.

KALE: Rise to the occasion.

SHORTZ: Right. Nose - N-O-S-E.

KALE: Nose to the grindstone. No, that's too many letters. Nose to the...

SHORTZ: That's it.

KALE: Oh, it is.

SHORTZ: No, that's exactly it.


SHORTZ: Your last answers have more than one word, and the first of these is good.

KALE: Good to the last drop.

SHORTZ: That's it. And your last one is journey.

KALE: Journey, journey to the...

SHORTZ: Yeah, famous novel, science fiction, Jules Verne.

KALE: I've never read science fiction.

SHORTZ: All right, well, I'll tell you the last one. It's "Journey To The Center Of The Earth."


GARCIA-NAVARRO: Great job. How do you feel?

KALE: (Laughter) Well, OK. So I'm a little light on some phrases, but I'm all the wiser now.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: You did really well. And for playing our puzzle today, you'll get a WEEKEND EDITION lapel pin, as well as puzzle books and games. You can read all about it at And, Denise, which member station do you listen to?

KALE: I listen to KCLU out of Thousand Oaks, Calif.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: That's Denise Kale of Santa Barbara, Calif. Thank you for playing The Puzzle.

KALE: Thank you so very much.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: All right. Will, what's next week's challenge?

SHORTZ: Yes, it comes from listener Dominick Talvacchio (ph) of Chicago. Think of an informal term for a beverage. Now say it in pig Latin, and you'll have an informal term for another beverage. What two beverages are these? So, again, an informal term for a beverage. Say it in pig Latin, and you'll have an informal term for another beverage. What two beverages are these?

GARCIA-NAVARRO: When you have the answer, go to our website and click on the Submit Your Answer link. Remember, just one entry per person, please. Our deadline for entries is Thursday, October 17 at 3 p.m. Eastern. Include a phone number where we can reach you about that time. And if you're the winner, we'll give you a call, and you'll get to play on the air with the puzzle editor of The New York Times and WEEKEND EDITION's puzzlemaster, Will Shortz. Thanks so much, Will.

SHORTZ: Thanks, Lulu.

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