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A Meeting With Putin, If It Happened Soon, Would Involve A Different Trump

The President Trump that might meet soon with Russian President Vladimir Putin is in a very different political position than the one who last talked with him face-to-face.
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The President Trump that might meet soon with Russian President Vladimir Putin is in a very different political position than the one who last talked with him face-to-face.

The next time Vladimir Putin meets President Trump, he'll be dealing with a very different man — politically, at least.

In the months since the two leaders last were face-to-face, Trump has publicly blamed Russia for its attack on the 2016 election, increased sanctions, kicked out a horde of Russian intelligence officers and closed Russia's last diplomatic mission on the West Coast.

After calling Putin to congratulate him on his re-election, Trump said he expected to meet with the Russian leader soon. White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders followed up on Monday by clarifying that although talks continue, nothing has yet been arranged.

"As the president himself confirmed on March 20, hours after his last call with President Putin, the two had discussed a bilateral meeting in the 'not-too-distant future' at a number of potential venues, including the White House," Sanders said. "We have nothing further to add at this time."

The domestic political and geopolitical environment in which Washington and Moscow might negotiate a bilateral meeting today is quite different from the last time Trump met Putin — during an Asia Pacific summit in November.

Trump told reporters after their meeting that he believed Putin meant his denials about interfering in the 2016 election.

"Every time he sees me, he says, 'I didn't do that,' " Trump said of Putin at the time. "And I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it. But he says, 'I didn't do that.' I think he's very insulted by it, if you want to know the truth."

Fast forward to March 6, when Trump responded to a question about the active measures without any caveats.

"Certainly, there was meddling and probably there was meddling from other countries and maybe other individuals," he said during a joint news conference with the Swedish prime minister. "And I think you have to be really watching very closely. You don't want your system of votes to be compromised in any way. And we won't allow that to happen."

Since the last meeting, Trump approved new sanctions against a number of Russians or Russian entities named by Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller in one of his indictments related to the active measures campaign.

Trump also took unified action with the British and European governments to kick out a large cadre of Russian officials in retaliation for Russia's alleged poisoning attack against two people in the United Kingdom.

So if Trump meets with Putin again anytime soon, the meeting would take place at a nadir in relations between the United States and Russia even worse than the last time. And Trump no longer will be in a position to accept Putin's denials about election interference or clandestine violence in the West — he and his allies have already punished him for them.

The next milestone for Trump could be on Tuesday when he hosts the leaders of the Baltic states — Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia — in a summit at the White House.

The reason for the leaders' visits is the 100th anniversary of the Baltic nations, but they remain deeply leery about the influence of Russia just over their borders. Baltic and other Eastern European political leaders have sought more deployments by American and other NATO troops to dissuade Russian adventurism, especially after Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

The Baltic leaders will probably be listening closely on Tuesday for Trump to at least sustain his commitment to the Atlantic alliance and especially its members on the frontier with Russia, if not make some kind of new announcement about military postings or other security arrangements.

Trump wants to "set the stage for another century of strong ties between our countries," as principal deputy White House press secretary Raj Shah told reporters on March 26. "The U.S.-Baltic summit will focus on how best to strengthen our security, business, trade, energy, and cultural partnerships."

Less than meets the eye?

Critics say they don't buy the new Trump positions on Putin and Russia. The sanctions that followed the Mueller indictment were mostly symbolic, as the argument goes, and the expulsion of intelligence officers was " low-hanging fruit."

And when Trump spoke to Putin by phone, he did not mention either active measures nor the nerve agent poisoning in Britain, prompting opponents to ask how many of Trump's actions were real and how many were just a veneer.

"The fact that the president did not even bring up the topic of our election security when he called Vladimir Putin to congratulate him on his 'victory' — in a pre-cooked election — is extremely troubling," said Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., vice chairman of the Senate intelligence committee.

Asked to explain the omission, Shah said the administration's goal is to improve relations with Putin and his government and not to punish if possible.

"Our relationship with Russia is, frankly, up to the Russian government and up to Vladimir Putin and others in senior leadership in Russia," Shah said. "We want to have a cooperative relationship. The president wants to work with Russia, but their actions sometimes don't allow that to happen."

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Philip Ewing is an election security editor with NPR's Washington Desk. He helps oversee coverage of election security, voting, disinformation, active measures and other issues. Ewing joined the Washington Desk from his previous role as NPR's national security editor, in which he helped direct coverage of the military, intelligence community, counterterrorism, veterans and more. He came to NPR in 2015 from Politico, where he was a Pentagon correspondent and defense editor. Previously, he served as managing editor of Military.com, and before that he covered the U.S. Navy for the Military Times newspapers.